The rugged-ness, maybe. I should be able to grow more than 3 chest hairs and shave more often that once a week.
But good looks? I think your mam has been lying to you all these years
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The rugged-ness, maybe. I should be able to grow more than 3 chest hairs and shave more often that once a week.
But good looks? I think your mam has been lying to you all these years
It was your mam that told me...
Have you seen due date Andy? The perm thing has reminded me of it and it's a fooking hilarious film!
I wouldn't normally comment on the politics of any forum, I prefer plain and simple facts, but it's good to see that the new admin are being pro-active in reducing the "stress" that has often been exhibited on here. It's just a car, but they are cars that we all love for one reason or another, there doesn't need to be any hidden agenda.
So a little more specifics from my own point of view. I drive a lot of fast and powerful cars, such is the nature (benefits) of being a tuner. Of course my own car is up there too, but it was still a fantastic kick to drive Cetin's car on full boost. The dyno graphs do not reflect the full experience, not least because on the road the boost and power come in 300-400rpms earlier. It has an aggressive cam, so you can expect a rough "bub bub" idle and very little low down grunt, but once you are around 3000rpm it has more than enough torque to be kicking about with. On the motorway you can cruise happily in 5th at 70-80mph, no need to downshift if you want to accelerate, and of course excellent fuel economy.
Of course when you go for it the sensation is exciting (and demanding too) as the acceleration is simply relentless. It's often nice to have a big fat wallop of mid-range torque (turbo-diesel!), but invariably it is over too quickly and leaves you underwhelmed. A screamer engine gets the pulse going nicely, every step in the rpm builds to a frenetic crescendo... faster, faster, faster! This engine is good for over 8000rpm, so once the fuel requirements are introduced, it will have a very good powerband of 3000+rpms.
It's a humble 1.4 8v, but it's putting out nearly 300bhp/tonne... that will raise anyones eyebrows
Hans on form as usual
Perfectly valid comment. Debo likes to come across as tuning and polishing god, likes to big his dad up with his diesel torque 1.6 punto etc etc, then comes up with this.
This Punto you see here, has the same torque curve as my old car interestingly. It's good fun to drive.
I'm not knocking anything or anyone, i just meant you are on form as usual as in humourus comments
While we're on the subject of Fiat 500s. Its a nice car yes, but a man in a 500...surely there's some uphill gardening going on there....
finally got there cetin!! good power but torques really down, is this with a gt28rs neil? could be a cam timing issue, never the less it got there in the end! should drive well with out major wheel spin issues which is nice and all the drive abilty with std ecu features thats nice. the piper rally cam works well in the 1400cc we found, in the 1600cc it goes flat but gives sh1t loads of low end torque. when i made the downpipe for cetins gt i told him to change that exhaust to 2.5" before the map.!!
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