so then, Forza 3.....

[Tom]

Shush ya noise!

PS3 much better, plus you wont need a new one once a year.

Free online gaming, doesnt sound like Mum's dyson and the slims wuite light now, chuck it in my laptop bag for when im in Leeds now. Bought Theme Hospital for £2.39 for it other day on playstation network and ive been on it for about 20hours


Anyway the point is... Forza is no match for GT5 which is only a month or so away. Xbox has had its time, people have them because they scruffily made and cheap and they break as a result, im surprised it didnt go the way of the Dreamcast as that was rushed out to beat the PS2 to the market and paid for it as a result. PS3 is only £220 in Asda now and £230 in Sainos, Rich, you know what makes sense! Modern Warfare2 on PS3 too

Come back in roughly a month and show me your copy of GT5!!

That was supposed to be one of the main release games, how late is it now?

[punto gt3]

maybe late, but every year they keep getting better and better, i have ps3 as along with my 2 brothers that have tham as well as the 360, and my brother has had to send his in twice now due to the ring of death

[Puntoboy]

maybe late, but every year they keep getting better and better, i have ps3 as along with my 2 brothers that have tham as well as the 360, and my brother has had to send his in twice now due to the ring of death

And? I've had nothing but good service from Microsft when mine died earlier in the year. Was only gone for a week and it's never skipped a beat since.

[Tom]

And? I've had nothing but good service from Microsft when mine died earlier in the year. Was only gone for a week and it's never skipped a beat since.

Ditto.

I got a brand new one when mine failed. I didnt even have a warranty as it was second hand from ebay.

[Puntoboy]

Ditto.

I got a brand new one when mine failed. I didnt even have a warantee as it was second hand from ebay.

Likewise with me.

[LCFLEXA]

360 + Xbox live all day long!! Make sure you get an 09 model as it'll have the latest Jasper motherboard with a cooler running 65nm GPU/CPU.

Revisions: Zephyr & Xenon (No HDMI) = earlier models not mentioned...doomed to fail!!

Falcon
Launched Approx: September 2007
CPU: 65nm
GPU: 90nm
HDMI: Yes
RROD = Yes
Power Supply: 203w

Opus
Launched Approx: June 2008
CPU: 65nm
GPU: 90nm
HDMI: No
Power Supply: 175w
RROD = Yes

Jasper
Launched Approx: September 2008 onwards
CPU: 65nm
GPU: 65nm
HDMI: Yes
Power Supply: 150w
RROD = No

Valhalla
Launched Approx: Late 2009 (Final Revision)
CPU: 65nm or 45nm
GPU: 65nm or 45nm
HDMI: Yes
Power Supply: Unknown
RROD = No Chance

http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3424

Have a read on the website above & it'll explain how to look for a Jasper without opening the box, there's a little spy hole on the back which allows you to see the MFR date as well as the power rating:

16.5A = Xenon / Zephyr

14.2A = Falcon / Opus

12.1A = Jasper / Valhalla? (Might be less)

The above link is old now, there are plenty of Jaspers in circulation so you'll find one pretty easily, they use less electric & are really quiet in comparison to the rest.

[Puntoboy]

Boo min'es a Xenon/Zephyr.... Still fine though. I want to get an Elite soon anyway.

[Superman]

My Brother is on his 4th Xbox360 now, fair enough if you like them, but its hardly like your car where it can be fun and a learned experiance fixing it.

GT5 will be here soon. Im sure there was a year or two wait for HaloII... Xbox has no advantages over the PS3 apart from initial price which soon goes up if you want some connectivity.

[minimaniac]

Having just played GT on the PSP which has been n the making since 1987. Very very let down. EPIC FAIL as you would say Danny boy.

[Superman]

Im moving more onto "semi pro" rather then epic fail now Rich, everyones all over epic fail