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mad
all that fuss over a wide kit fitted but the engine wow from what i see
wana see this on the run
try to dig that up Matt
that car looks insane nice find.
Nice find! Looks the bollocks, always has!
Ugly thing
I don't like it either, I have gone off ov body kits.
I wander where it is now?
The Grama 2 Punto - or Puntograle as it has often been called - was a one-off publicity vehicle for Maggiora (who also built the Punto Rally and S1600) when the last of the Evo 2 Delta Integrales were being delivered during October 1994. They designed and built the car at a time when they had taken over production of the Evo2 Delta Integrales at Chivasso and it was originally shown at a party there to celebrate the last production batch of the famous Delta Integrale.
The overall impression of the car is just stunning.... it has been carefully crafted to look like a Punto Mk1 GT. This is a trick as the Punto body has been grafted onto a Dedra Integrale floor pan - so this Punto has four wheel drive and an Integrale engine!
Easy to say - but the Dedra floorpan happens to be about 12 inches longer than the Punto's body. The use of special front and rear valences with an additional 7inches depth disguise the floor pan’s length, while wheel arch and sill extensions blend away the 6 inches of additional track width. The size of the 17inch Integrale rims, shod with 205/45 tyres, does much to distract the eye into thinking all is ‘Punto’ normal – as does the all gold paint finish. The wheels provide the only hint that the Delta’s 4 wheel drive system lies beneath.
I've never seen this car in 'reality' to have a detailed look at their engineering choices - so if anyone has had a close look I'd love to know more. If I was doing this, I'd look to align the front bulkhead with the floor pan bulkhead position, then make the (small) change to the front cross member and its postion to get the drive shaft/axle line right. Most of the correction of wheel base would then be achieved at the rear of the floor pan (to get the wheel base right for the Punto shell) - but using the Dedra suspension mounts and cutting the Dedra floorpan forward of the suspension at a convenient point to retain the 4WD kit mounts. Then you'd need only a shorter rear drive 'prop' shaft. The 'catch' with this approach is that there wouldn't be enough room in a standard Punto engine bay for the Integrale induction/injector set up (unless you lost the heater area and re built the area under the windscreen)... and the rear seat space may look odd (where the floor pan chopping was done)?
Originally the project’s single chassis was fitted out with an 8-valve Delta unit. But trials with the car convinced them it was capable of constraining a full on 16-valve turbo Integrale spec. Power is quoted at over 220bhp @ 5750rpm. Top speed is estimated ‘above 220kph’ while its gearing is thought to be rally spec derived and short – so acceleration is abrupt and brutal!
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come across this weird looking punto while reading about the Puntograle,what is this?
http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/s...bert-racer.jpg
and some more pics here
http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/s...untograma2.jpg
http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/s...UNTOGRALE2.jpg
http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/s...edimage223.jpg
http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/s...edimage233.jpg
http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/s...edimage243.jpg
http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/s...edimage252.jpg
Fiat also build 1996 3 1.8 16v 6 speed in MK1 Chassis! With LSD and some other nice goodies! 160hp. The last one stand somewhere in italy[-(
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4819/pabat001ve5.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/926/pabat003cu3.jpg
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/917/pabat002xn1.jpg
Epic car, wonder if it still lives....
If you mean the silver one, the car was sold in 2004 for 2800€ in ebay .it!
And yes, it still lives with under 100mile of the speedo:shock:
I imagine the PuntoGrale never went up for sale and is in a museum somewhere
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u would hope so, but so many car manufactures just send project like these to the crusher when they are done with them, like for did with the rs1700t, or mitsubishi did with most of their wrc cars a few years after they pulled out of the wrcQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd
Yep, didnt go down well Mitsi squashing some WRC cars! Easy cash in those baddys!
The silver one was the alleged Mk1 Punto Abarth isnt it?
nope at least 2 still suvive i know sumo power own a evo 6 wrc and a evo step 2 which was built from a 7 shell still a massive shameQuote:
Originally Posted by Superman
the silver 1 is what was going to be teh punto abarth it used the 1.8 alfa tspark engine i belive
Well loads still exsist I mean, but they did just squash some they didnt want anymore.
Bloke I bought my comps off had just aquaired a brande spankers Evo6 WRC shell...
IMHO this Puntograle is like the Frankenstein, looks ugly
The 2.0 16vT engine and the 4WD also can be installed in a standard 176 cassie too
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This spoilers just adding dead weight and more drag coefficient
just for those who doesn't know what RS1700T isQuote:
Originally Posted by shorty2289
http://i560.photobucket.com/albums/s...my/RS1700T.jpg
they maybe too young to remember
i think it was all their later cars tbh like the wrc04/05 the ugly 1's other wordsQuote:
Originally Posted by Superman
Ugly, yes, but you get a sense that every part of it is designed for a practical purpose. The vents for the extra cooling etc.
I'd love to see a 4WD Punto.
the Barchetta is based on the 176type Punto floorplan and has the 1.8 16v VFD 130BHP engine
sooo IMHO if the donor engine comes from a Barchetta and not from a Coupe (or Bravo), then it can be easy mounted into a mk1 Punto bay too
This was the Punto I had as my desk top from back in the days.Ugly but does it for me!Would love to see where it is now.
I'd guess either scrapped or hidden in someone's garage somewhere??
I need to find the post but this car popped up on Facebook recently and the suggestion was it was in some warehouse and was being collected by it's new owner. So if that's true, it's still around.
I also saw something on FB about it being sold, looked like the same one.
Properly supercool, shame no ones ever gone to the same trouble for an replica :(
Yeah it sold the new owner is on the facebook page