Based upon a review of the circumstances, previous warnings and opinions expressed, it has been decided to make the ban on CetinGT permanent.
The ban on Debo has been reduced, effectively to a week, for continuing to provoke CetinGT publicly.
I hope that these decisions will be seen to have been fair and unbiased, as intended.
As a final word, arguments between individuals should be taken to PMs, as necessary. Failng that possibility, then report the thread or post for action by a moderator.