Final Prices on GT Turbo's [Archive] - Punto Sports Club Forum

myredbullet

29th August 2005, 18:23

Hendy Can you post the differnces for me. Also Whats teh difference between these and the turbo technics ones and the md103 one.

Im looking for a turbo for my 4.11 but havnt decided.

bigger and better. Involve a lot more for fitting though. And the GT28r and rs are really suitable for seb4.1 i'd imagine, really need to go with proper management.

audiben

29th August 2005, 20:39

im interested as i have the seb 4.1 setup at the moment ready to put on but just the turbo so which one would be better?

myredbullet

29th August 2005, 21:30

gt28r defo, lots of scope there :)

It on my shopping list, cheaper than £500 squid though :-# :-$ :dance:

audiben

30th August 2005, 11:48

so if i go for a t28 it should work fine with the 4.1 setup?

Hendy

30th August 2005, 13:02

www.atpturbos.com (http://www.atpturbos.com)

have a look there all the info you need is on there..

Hendy

30th August 2005, 13:02

still think the GT25R is the best turbo for a seb 4.1 setup imo

Hendy

30th August 2005, 13:08

www.atpturbos.com (http://www.atpturbos.com/)

have a look there all the info you need is on there..

sorry its www.atpturbo.com (http://www.atpturbo.com) not turbos

mawbster

30th August 2005, 17:31

are they a direct replacement or not.

Whats the differnce between them.

Will you get more power from a t28
Etc Etc

Please give us some information

jimn

30th August 2005, 18:07

still think the GT25R is the best turbo for a seb 4.1 setup imo

I am inclined to agree with you! If you look at the specs of the said turbos the gt25r Is described as being good for small 4cylinder applications (punto 1.4!!) And has a flow capacity of 240 bhp. If your using a seb 4.11 i dont see why you wouold need any bigger. Surely its just going to be more laggy and overkill on the bhp front. Maybe with stand alone management you could use the extra flow capacity but with a seb 4.11 you will be lucky getting much over 200 bhp so the i would say the gt25r will be fine!
- Just my thoughts!! ;-)

audiben

30th August 2005, 18:15

I am inclined to agree with you! If you look at the specs of the said turbos the gt25r Is described as being good for small 4cylinder applications (punto 1.4!!) And has a flow capacity of 240 bhp. If your using a seb 4.11 i dont see why you wouold need any bigger. Surely its just going to be more laggy and overkill on the bhp front. Maybe with stand alone management you could use the extra flow capacity but with a seb 4.11 you will be lucky getting much over 200 bhp so the i would say the gt25r will be fine!
- Just my thoughts!! ;-)

thank you chaps! then i will have a gt25r please!

jimn

30th August 2005, 18:23

are they a direct replacement or not.

Whats the differnce between them.

Will you get more power from a t28
Etc Etc

Please give us some information

The punto has a t2 flange so any garret starting with t2... will fit i.e t25, gt25r, t28 and so on. So they will fit on the manifold. Usually you will have to use three studs instead of 4 to fasten the eldow to the exhaust housing - not really a problem!
Next issue is the direction of the compressor housing/wastegate mounting bracket, this will have to be rotated (probably) so it points in the general direction of the boost pipe on the car. Then there are oil feed and drains that you might be lucky and they will be the same but dont count on it!! And you will almost certanly need a new boost pipe to join the boost pipe on the car and the turbo.

These are all the things i had to do when fitting a 'normal' garret t25 to mine so.... Its good when you finnaly get it on but i wouldnt say its a weekend job mate. If you want a direct replacement there are 3 i know of: Turbo technics t25, Turbo dynamics and the crem de la crem (but v pricey) Mitsi saitio (sp?)

Hope this helps :-)

funtime

30th August 2005, 18:38

Hendy

30th August 2005, 19:54

just had a quick look, £520 all in from atpturbo? is that the figure to your door or do you need to include import tax, etc.?

i ordered mine form there and the import tax, postal charges etc were £107

thats to your door... all in..

I had my turbo here in 3days to which is quicker almost than sending stuff within the Uk..lol..

I remember reading or hereing someone tell me to order the smallest housing.. Ie .63 etc.. think its got something to do with the fact that the Throttle body on the GT are small.. "tho not 100% on that".. imo no point in having big housing then going in a small Throttle body..

not sure if that helps or not... lmao..

myredbullet

30th August 2005, 20:03

thats to your door... all in..

I had my turbo here in 3days to which is quicker almost than sending stuff within the Uk..lol..

I remember reading or hereing someone tell me to order the smallest housing.. Ie .63 etc.. think its got something to do with the fact that the Throttle body on the GT are small.. "tho not 100% on that".. imo no point in having big housing then going in a small Throttle body..

not sure if that helps or not... lmao..

nope the fact that its only got a displacement of 1372cc :lol:

Throttle body is fine for 300bhp+

mawbster

30th August 2005, 20:21

what kind of differences will it guve. Im looking for the most power that i can get so if i get a t28rs and run it will my seb 4.11 then how will the performance differ ti having a t25 jobbie?

Debo

30th August 2005, 22:50

Lots of "torque" (sorry, couldn't resist the pun) about roller bearing turbo's etc going on in here at the moment. I don't know what or why, but without proper management and a decent base engine spec, surely going anything bigger than a T25 is a complete WOFT? (waste of f**king time).

These turbo's (the GT series Garretts) aren't a direct fit, and require a fair bit of fiddling and messing about to be MADE to fit. It's a good idea in theory, but not a practical one for the less hard core modifyers. By that, I mean those who are wanting to go down the 'off the shelf' route.

If going down the path of the SEB4.1, why not just stick to what you know works???

I can see what's happened here. An inviting price has tempted those wanting to be 'different whilst still keeping close to what is already known', but the £500 or whatever for the tubo is not a true reflection of the cost involved - simply because of the effort required to fit one of the said turbo's and then get them working with the correct oil feed etc.

I'm not wanting to piss on anyones bonfire here, but I think a step back is required, and some hard thought given before splashing out on what could be a rather expensive paper weight. 8-[

Debo

30th August 2005, 22:56

what kind of differences will it guve. Im looking for the most power that i can get so if i get a t28rs and run it will my seb 4.11 then how will the performance differ ti having a t25 jobbie?

A 4.1 isn't an ideal map for a T28 Turbo, especially not the GT28RS!!!

It's a great chip, and I'm not knocking it... but please, it isn't magic.... open your eyes people - it was mapped using a T25, not even a RBT25!!!!!! :-?

Mawbster, if you want MY advice.... start looking at the basics before getting a large turbo and making it fit. If you want the most power possible, the turbo will only get you half way there. I'm running a smaller turbo than most of the self acclaimed "200+ Punto" owners, yet have the most power.....

audiben

31st August 2005, 06:04

hang on a second im confused! basically people are saying the t25 from this buy is not ideal for the seb 4.1 setup?

ChrisGT3

31st August 2005, 11:46

hang on a second im confused! basically people are saying the t25 from this buy is not ideal for the seb 4.1 setup?

No ones saying its not ideal, people are merely saying dont buy this turbo if you think it will be a straight swap over, turbos that are straight swap have been listed before the fave being the mitsi but at over £1000 ud expect it to be a perfect fit and replacement. The GT25RS is a great turbo no arguments but it will require a good deal of work getting it fitted correctly with correct oil feed ect ect.

Hendy

31st August 2005, 13:08

agree 110% with both you guys..

ChrisGT3

31st August 2005, 13:26

Would consider one for the GT25RS if fittig wasnt tooo much of a problem, will await results from you buddy.

Hendy

31st August 2005, 14:53

no worries..

I know this one i have will fit the manifold no worries..

but like debo said its getting the feeds etc up and running.. tho anytthing can be done 8-[ lol

Hendy

7th September 2005, 13:05

bumpy bump

Hendy

11th September 2005, 18:59

have two comfirmed orders for the GT28RS..

Need to order one more..

£600 all in.. all A/R sizes available!!

Pm me, will be with you in 2weeks max..

audiben

11th September 2005, 19:50

im interested in the gt25r or the gt28 but i want to see how difficult it was fitting it and the performance!

Hendy

16th September 2005, 15:54

The turbo comes direct from garrett themselfs....

you know you want one...

just look mmmmmmm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/minrodracer/GT25R-225225.jpg

audiben

16th September 2005, 19:35

i would like a gt25r but i cant pay in cash, can only do credit card at the moment!

Hendy

16th September 2005, 21:03

withdraw cash on your card from the atm..

thats what i did last week for the coupe rims!!

Hendy

26th September 2005, 12:27

bump to top..

audiben

27th September 2005, 03:38

im just looking into how the fit is like! it looks like it fits fine but its the oil feed and parts are a bit fiddly!

Hendy

23rd October 2005, 19:22

up we go to the top!!

Puntoboy

28th October 2005, 19:47

can you still get the GT25r?

Hendy

28th October 2005, 20:24

yip sure can..

Puntoboy

28th October 2005, 20:27

direct fit for a GT?

minimaniac

29th October 2005, 10:15

If its a direct fit for a gt25r then im in!

Hendy

29th October 2005, 18:13

they are a direct fit to your manifold yes..

there is some modding to be done tho I think with feeds etc..

Here's a pic of the Gt28 and standard turbo from the punto GT3..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v283/minrodracer/f81a3d61.jpg

The power is going to be nice indeed.. just love that pic, think i need to add feed pipes to the GT etc tho not be that hard,

Puntoboy

30th October 2005, 17:57

what about the exhaust elbow?

minimaniac

30th October 2005, 20:39

so are we talkin a local garage would be able to fit the gt28r or is it a specialist job? i have the money here waiting but i just have to be 100% sure

minimaniac

30th October 2005, 20:40

so are we talkin a local garage would be able to fit the gt28r or is it a specialist job? i have the money here waiting but i just have to be 100% sure

oops i meant gt25r

Hendy

31st October 2005, 02:11

debo i think is running this turbo..

I am not sure all the work that is needed as of yet.. I will be putting my turbo on sometime... in the next few months... if you want to wait i will share all my info with you then..

someone else is bound to know..lol..

willy fog

18th January 2006, 20:17

can these turbos still be got or is there any plans of another group buy? im going for new engine management and am looking for a output of about 200 to 210 horsepower. will be looking to buy whatever i can to make her something special, something fast. . engine is gone in to be rebuilt and am going about getting a bigger fuel pump and injectors as well.

Debo

18th January 2006, 20:22

If you're only looking for between 200-210hp then why go down the route of larger injectors and a different engine management system?

It has been proven that with the standard injectors and Bosch ECU, a GT can make those figures you're after with a SEB4.11 and a Turbo Technics Stage 2 hybrid. You'd save yourself alot of hassle, as none of the turbo's in the GT series are direct replacements.

Just my thoughts anyway....